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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-03-19 23:24 [#02626036]
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dumbo twump


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-03-20 00:01 [#02626037]
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finnigins footpath


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-03-20 02:57 [#02626043]
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oafus psychopathus


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-03-26 09:11 [#02626187]
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Rock star Ted Nugent played what was billed as a
"fire-breathing" rendition of the US national anthem on his
electric guitar, interrupted by an obscenity-laced diatribe
that included attacks on the "jack-booted thugs" in the
federal government who he said have been wrongfully
imprisoning Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol on 6
January, 2021.


again, usually this would go in accounts


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-03-26 09:14 [#02626189]
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my immediate hunch was they bailed on the grand jury for
security reasons. that either the FBI got wind of such a
level of shit that... alright, delay it... or they're
negotiating how trump would head in before even dropping the
indictment, because you don't want to give the idiots a
window... for security reasons... and hell, for security
reasons -- make trump wrong. let his goon squad stew for a
bit; they have a very short attention span. but then,
counterargument is that trump's mouth is filling the vacuum
and defining the case before it's even been unveiled


 

offline AphexTwin11 from OOOOOO (United States) on 2023-03-28 05:08 [#02626279]
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Meanie acid bad boy stepper


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-03 16:40 [#02626380]
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Trump was due to surrender at the Manhattan District
Attorney's Office on Tuesday and likely will be
fingerprinted and photographed prior to his appearance
before a judge at an arraignment proceeding where he will
plead not guilty.


The prints will then match a cold case from the late 70s...


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-03 16:44 [#02626381]
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but, yes. i've been trying to figure bragg out, and i think
that's what there is to figure out. he seems like somewhat
of a close-to-the-vest tactician

trump is convinced it's next tuesday. the tension simmers.
everyone waits. nothing happens. trump relaxes. he starts
buying into the rumor it won't happen for a month at least;
if ever

then, wham: see you next tuesday

if that's what bragg does, well, this could be good. or at
least not the utter shitshow we're all wincing over the thot
of


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2023-04-03 21:01 [#02626382]
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oh that would be perfect, fingers crossed it's something
totally heinous


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-03 21:35 [#02626383]
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read numerous accounts that he's all freaked out
about them printing him.

obvious thought from there: oh reallllly?

i kept thonk: he was the president; it'd be absurd no one
has his prints on file. but then he was the president of
america; it's possible this could more be about his prints
being put into the criminal system, which triggers a
run for matches

it may just be about the stolen classified docs case -- he
was all, "it's cool, i handled them all personally"
and pretty much every lawyer was facepalming, like -- you
idiot, now you can't stick the blame on anyone else. your
lawyer is an idiot for letting you do that


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-04 05:45 [#02626386]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-04 05:54 [#02626387]
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"Donald Trump Gag Order"

that is the most beautiful phrase i've heard in a while. it
has the same ring to it as some old watmm chestnut, "Gary
Glitter Slumber Party"


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-04 20:11 [#02626400]
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lol


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 03:14 [#02626403]
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As inmate Trump worked the crowd, one woman pointed
directly at him. “It’s Hillary Clinton,” she said,
ignoring his face. “Hey, Hillary, you finally got locked
up.”


lol


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 03:23 [#02626405]
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you know, stormy daniels is pretty much the one thing no
one's every really argued about, or gone deep Q-state on

nope. instead it's "he banged some porn star and paid the
press to bury the story, duh" and there's not even a wacko
conspiracy theory for this one, because everyone simply
accepted it'd happened and moved on with whatever worldview
they held.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 03:25 [#02626406]
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the trump-and-trucks alpha fatty contingent obviously
thought it was great trump banged a pornstar while married.
in fact, trying to argue he didn't would probably play worse
with 'em. take that, Q


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 03:26 [#02626407]
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for once no one believes trump, when he says he never
"slept" with her

...she says it lasted 45 seconds. if that's true, well...
let's do some napkin math on how much that 45 seconds cost


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-05 04:05 [#02626410]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 06:10 [#02626414]
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oh, them. it used to be a good fit -- they targeted
"upper-middle class educated people"

now they've declared that this isn't going to cut it; that
their target market is "young, hip, and woke" and it is no
longer a good fit


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 06:19 [#02626415]
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implying that these two demographics do not have much
overlap -- well, John Lansing said it, not me

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-05 13:36 [#02626421]
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2025: President DeSantis opens the first camps for NPR
listeners


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-05 14:06 [#02626422]
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the persecution begins


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 14:14 [#02626423]
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since twump "indicated," that stubbly little gitmo lawyer
been dropping off the radar so hard he's beginning to
red-shift


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-05 14:45 [#02626424]
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very well then

2025: President Trump opens the first camps for NPR
listeners


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 15:22 [#02626426]
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if you want to be a bastard, do it properly: president
desantis opens the first camps for women who have had
abortions, after president trump chokes on steak -- making
vice-prez desantis president desantis -- following their
landslide win after biden has a mini-stroke and becomes
unable to say anything except the word "eggplant" while
ahead in the polls, in the final leg of the campaign. trump
choking on the steak throws the press for a loop, as his
conviction from before the election in georgia
finally runs out of legal stall tactics, hits sentencing,
and since he was convicted before being in office he can
still go to jail, but he's president, but nevermind he
chokes on steak





but in truth, it will be far less satisfying: trump will
crush the split field in the primaries, then bomb in the
general election. biden will win another round, as is
typical for a sitting prez. congress -- who knows, but it'll
be a slim margin either way, again.

probably the most interesting thing will be to see if joe
manchin is replaced by a republican. it would be an utterly
suiting end to that shitstain's attempt to stay in office at
all costs

then we'll have another four years of biden, like, mildly
repairing some of trump's damage, preventing WWIII, but
nothing that actually makes you sit up and say, "hey, cool"

instead kamela harris has an obnoxious travel itinerary
covered by the press in prep for here 2028 bid which has
about as much chance as mike pence

in the end, the usual democrat standard of "while we've
stopped it from circling the drain, we aim to disappoint on
most every other level -- or, at the very least, be as
boring as possible"


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 15:24 [#02626427]
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lots of luck in your senior center


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 15:30 [#02626428]
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my standard position on deciding who should be president:

who has the least annoying voice? because you'll be hearing
that voice in the supermarket, in uber cars, etc. for the
next four years

biden crushes trump, in that regard -- trump is grating and
actively obnoxious. biden reminds me of trying to keep my
forehead from slamming into my desk, calculus class, 8am,
sophomore year of high school


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 16:38 [#02626434]
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> biden has a mini-stroke and becomes unable to say
anything except the word "eggplant"


Biden: "eggplant eggplant, eggplant eggplant eggplant
eggplant, eggplant egg- ... eggplant -- eggplant eggplant
egg eggplant, eggplant, eggplant -- eggplant!"

[my fellow americans, during my time it has been my
privilege to be the president of this great nation, and i
aim to continue the -- continue that -- unprecedented
accomplishments in global relations, climate change, and
civil rights -- over the next four years!]


Debate Moderator: President Biden, are you...
alright?

Biden: Eggplant!


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 19:47 [#02626437]
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Trump: is this about my dick again? fuck you. you
assholes can say what you want about it, but you know where
it's been because i got indicated [sic] over it so take
that

i was thinking: is trump denying the stormy fling about his
marriage? ...and, no, if this would kill it, it'd have died
long ago, lol

...that, actually, it's about stormy d's prince toadstool
comments. that if he admits they banged, that means she's
seen it, and that lends it legitimacy. however --
lol -- he wouldn't react so strongly if it
weren't true

i mean, i assumed it was. just like the allegations he'd
slept with her. but this is all quite confirmation about the
anatomy part in my book


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-05 19:50 [#02626438]
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trump is a sociopathic, narcissistic, neurotic [germaphobe],
borderline... that he has sort of hit a grand square in a
way that is beautifully horrid.

i can't tell if it's simply constant emotional redline that
has him sleeping four hours a night, amphetamines, or both.
in any case, i am certain that his insecurities and paranoia
are the entirety of his reality, and that he spends twenty
hours a day obsessing over it all.

so, we'll never crack all of it, because no one can keep up
with that level of moody, brooding rumination. no one has
that much time in the day except trump. i think that is key
to his success, really

...but we can figure out bits of it, here and there. usually
in retrospect. the reason he's so adamant the stormy thing
didn't happen is one of these bits. took until today for me
to put that one together.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-05 20:31 [#02626441]
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The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling
ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of
society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force.
The class which has the means of material production at its
disposal, has control at the same time over the means of
mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the
ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are
subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the
ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the
dominant material relationships grasped as ideas; hence of
the relationships which make the one class the ruling one,
therefore, the ideas of its dominance.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-06 02:33 [#02626446]
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If I collect just 7 more tumors in The End is Nigh I'll go
from stage 2 to stage 3 cancer and earn a Steam achievement.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-08 03:05 [#02626514]
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that i imagine tony went to ron, and said, "ron, look. epics
said you're falling off the radar so hard, you're beginning
to red shift, and he's right about these things sometimes"

ron replied: "shit, you're right! i'll go beat up on disney
some more, because that will play well with my base. just
like texas state congress picking on austin and the US
congress picking on DC. it's sure to work"

...and it will play very well. in florida. somewhat in the
primaries. or not. that's about where he'll crumple and
we'll switch from ron or don to ron 'n' don

trump and his nicknames. "Ronald McDonald," if it weren't so
on the nose he'd be using that already. i swear.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-08 03:07 [#02626515]
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i think we can all agree that gavin newsom should shut up;
quietly zip himself back up into his organic aloe
preservation pod. i know you're jealous that mccartney is
sucking up all the cali air. i know you want to be sure it's
clear you feel you're a backup if biden ducks out. just shut
up


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-08 03:08 [#02626516]
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mccarthy. the communism witch hunt guy. not the english
stoner that just likes messing with tape


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-08 03:29 [#02626517]
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how about all this news tho

to steal from Stephen Colbert, there is no match for the
size of Clarence Thomas's jurisprudence, first off

then the Tennessee thing. milfplex abortion tablets. Ukraine
document leak. mario movie

ron who? he feels even more fuzzy and fake than that other
guy who used to be in the news -- you know, the one with the
[bad] hair

but then a song or some crap said, "what a difference a day
makes, 24 little hours" and who knows what the fuck is on
tap for tomorrow. SWAT storms disneyland



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-08 03:43 [#02626518]
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LAZY_TITLE it can be hard to keep up with yourself
sometimes


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 06:31 [#02626574]
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i've been stewing on how to respond to this, whatever it is.
that i have read the great economists -- you know, Adam
Savage, Maynard James Keenan, etc. -- but that was a while
ago and it's all jumbled in my hed. i found that stuff kind
of a snooze and things like the caning of sumner are much
clearer than any of that Savage Funk

and whatever this is, whoever wrote it -- you're a time warp
here, bro. 200 years out of date. you need to update your
messaging

how about: why is my time worth, say, $80/hr while some
CEO's time is worth $8000/hr? are they really worth the
extra dosh?

and it's just one of those rhetorical questions where you've
already made the point before you answer your own question.

to wit: i came back days later, having actually read this
passage, and oh, hmm, what is it that i'm getting at here?
most people on, like... reddit... will just view the whole
blurb as a blur and say "lol he's quoting some dead white
guy" and conclude you're a pretentious twat and move on.
it's only on xltronic that someone will actually take a
moment to process


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-09 19:42 [#02626595]
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What, then, is the cost of production of labour-power?

It is the cost required for the maintenance of the labourer
as a labourer, and for his education and training as a
labourer.

Therefore, the shorter the time required for training up to
a particular sort of work, the smaller is the cost of
production of the worker, the lower is the price of his
labour-power, his wages. In those branches of industry in
which hardly any period of apprenticeship is necessary and
the mere bodily existence of the worker is sufficient, the
cost of his production is limited almost exclusively to the
commodities necessary for keeping him in working condition.
The price of his work will therefore be determined by the
price of the necessary means of subsistence.

Here, however, there enters another consideration. The
manufacturer who calculates his cost of production and, in
accordance with it, the price of the product, takes into
account the wear and tear of the instruments of labour. If a
machine costs him, for example, 1,000 shillings, and this
machine is used up in 10 years, he adds 100 shillings
annually to the price of the commodities, in order to be
able after 10 years to replace the worn-out machine with a
new one. In the same manner, the cost of production of
simple labour-power must include the cost of propagation, by
means of which the race of workers is enabled to multiply
itself, and to replace worn-out workers with new ones. The
wear and tear of the worker, therefore, is calculated in the
same manner as the wear and tear of the machine.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-09 19:42 [#02626596]
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Thus, the cost of production of simple labour-power amounts
to the cost of the existence and propagation of the worker.
The price of this cost of existence and propagation
constitutes wages. The wages thus determined are called the
minimum of wages. This minimum wage, like the determination
of the price of commodities in general by cost of
production, does not hold good for the single individual,
but only for the race. Individual workers, indeed, millions
of workers, do not receive enough to be able to exist and to
propagate themselves; but the wages of the whole working
class adjust themselves, within the limits of their
fluctuations, to this minimum.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-09 19:44 [#02626597]
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(CEO positions on the level you're talking, on the other
hand, are musical chairs for the ownership class and one
wouldn't be allowed in that position unless he were already
raking in 10x the CEO compensation in capital gains. This
ensures his class loyalty.)


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 23:06 [#02626606]
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you always post the problems pretty eloquently.

the solutions? can they be done without artificial equity
and simple government confiscation and re-distribution?
Cause that's never worked in "the people's" favor beyond one
bad despot leader. And those leaders will always come.

I believe, for the most part, people in non-third world
countries are not traded in for a better machine after 10
years, so the model is only talking about some kind of
dystopian scenario, which is, funnily enough, more
pronounced under historically marxist regimes (through the
respective despots that ALWAYS end up usurping such large
single party governmental apparati)


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 23:20 [#02626607]
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I make 2 assumptions

1. the quality of life is, for the most part, higher than
what you're purporting in a democratic society.

sure, this doesn't apply if you're spending all your welfare
money on crack cocaine, but that's a small %, and for the
most part it's better than what you describe.

2. a system of even MINOR checks and balances like the US
had prevented an authoritarian demagogue like Trump to do
much harm. Yeah that's right, he didn't do much. He would
have IF he could have though. Is there a better system that
DOESN'T rely on some stupid, doughy eyed optimism about how
it'll be fine if we yield all "means of production" to the
government? You just pretend no one will usurp it?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 23:31 [#02626608]
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last time in this vein I kind of joked that you SMOKED ME in
response,

but it wasn't really a joke...

You're far more articulate (at least at stating the nature
of problems) than I am.

But I would like at least one real world example of a time
where the MEANS OF PRODUCTION was yielded to the government
and it actually worked out.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-10 02:21 [#02626610]
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Ah, the state. Can the state be trusted? It depends who
owns, operates and benefits from the state. Workers who
create value, or owners who harvest the value?

You've probably absorbed a lot of retarded turbofaggotry
about China. How China Got Rich is a good first antidote. If
anyone's worked out from painful experience how to make
socialism and a dynamic market work together in a
transitional phase, they have. In China, there is a market,
but it's not in the driver's seat.

You're about to see a lot of the world emulate the Chinese
model, in which there's a market, but the people control the
commanding heights of the economy. Especially as the US
collapses and loses its ability to punish states who dare to
run their countries for the benefit of their own people.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-10 03:24 [#02626611]
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I totally should have guessed the answer would be China,
lol.

I mean i asked from an economic standpoint, and they
certainly are growing and pulling more out of abject poverty
every day.

I probably should have also stipulated, however, that it
shouldn't be a single party quasi dictatorship where the
individuals can't even access a free idea on the internet
and have "ghosts" censored out of their PC games. (They're a
spiritual toxin.)

The fact that China was the best you could do just speaks to
how shitty this world actually is.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-04-10 05:33 [#02626612]
Points: 40010 Status: Regular



Dum thread#


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-04-10 12:22 [#02626618]
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single party quasi dictatorship

it isn't, there are elections according to democratic
centralism under which there are, believe it or not,
multiple parties. Xi Jinping serves at the will of the
people and can be removed. Last time China was widely
surveyed by westoids there was 95% approval of
Beijing. Compare that to 38% approval of Washington. Why?
Because in the US the people are not in control. The money
is.

the individuals can't even access a free idea on the
internet


Coming from a guy in a country where big tech media is in
bed with the government to promote and suppress various
viewpoints, and where a journalist is being extradited to
face trial for telling the truth... I dunno, man. People I
know who live in China say that everyone who wants to uses a
VPN and no one gives a shit. So much for the Great
Firewall.

and have "ghosts" censored out of their PC games.

Oh yeah, well here I agree with you. Have a country where
the government is run by and for the people and the main
goal is development and the alleviation of poverty, fine,
but fuck with a man's video games ghosts? It's time for
nuculer.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-10 13:47 [#02626619]
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Yeah, I can't really explain why the ghost censorship is so
triggering. It seems to be a fundamental part of my makeup.
I won't apologize for it (or stop picking at this kind of
shit), but I recognize it can look foolish in terms of
priority.

If Xi Jinping can really be removed, that's to the good. I
get heavy "I'm no longer President, so now I'm the Prime
Minister" vibes, but history will be the ultimate judge.
Just being clear, I don't think I can be sold on an easy
transfer of power when the bureaucracy is that large.
Political opponents tend to just disappear.

I do not understand China's economic system well and will
listen to that video when driving home later, open mindedly
if it doesn't seem to heavy handed.

And definitely, you'll get no corporate dicksucking here,
the tech censorship is awful. I mean I can say something
nasty about Trump or Biden or Winnie The Pooh without having
my door kicked in, but say it loud enough and paypal might
cut off access to my account or something. It's fucked. I
don't have any answers to how to fix this stuff short of
just letting it all fall apart and resetting.

Recycle im sorry for being a debbie downer.
here's a picture of a very friendly looking bug who definitely
doesn't give a shit about geo-politics!


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-10 19:47 [#02626633]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02626597



(CEO positions on the level you're talking, on the other
hand, are musical chairs for the ownership class and one
wouldn't be allowed in that position unless he were already
raking in 10x the CEO compensation in capital gains. This
ensures his class loyalty.)


you missed the best part, at least what felt to me the one
point i hadn't considered in all of it:

The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal
expression of the dominant material relationships


...that a CEO exists and makes -- fuck you, it's more than
10x, more like 50x -- to provide a life script and
trajectory to the average worker. like telling a child, "you
could be president some day"

i'll actually dial it back a bit. being a CEO is a 24/7 job
and i'm not sure i have what it takes to get out of bed at
4am sunday nite and straighten out, like... while it's 4am
sunday nite to me, it's very thoroughly monday in japan, and
japan has a monday problem. i'd miss it because i'd have my
phone shut off. so there is arguably something to
justify... a bit more.

...but i think it's more like this, despite all you've said:
executives make a vastly disproportionate amount of money
because they control everyone's salaries. they control, to a
certain extent, the appointing of their own, of other/new
executives. so of course they bring in their buddies. and
yes, musical chairs


 


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